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Browns expected free agents

Posted on: January 4, 2010 10:40 pm
Edited on: January 5, 2010 9:09 am
 
Derek Anderson-signed for 2010 for 7.45 million with a 2 million bonus due in march-  I doubt we pick it up.

Marcus Bernard-free agent-  Sign this man, he came out of nowhere to help this team turn it around

Blake Constanzo -Free agent- He seems like a Mangini guy

Abe Elam- free agent- Mangini traded for him, if Mangini sticks around i expect a resigning.  We also have no options at safety 

Hank Frayley -signed for 1.63 million- I don't think we are cutting him, but wouldn't be shocked if we did.

Mike Furrey -free agent-  Ended the season as the starting safety.  I like his grit.  Keep around another season
  
Rex Hadnot -free agent- that improvement at the end of the season will get him a contract somewhere if not here.

Jerome Harrison -free agent-  Sign this man.  He can be good in this league.

DQwell Jackson -free agent-  I don't want to overpay to keep him.  He led the NFL in tackles two years ago but the defense sucked.  He going to want a lot of money and the defense was better without him.  That says something.

Jamal Lewis (retired) if not due 2.4 million  he is cut if he wants to come back.

Evan Moore -free agent- SIGN HIM!!!  He is what this offense needs, someone who can catch.

Brodney Pool -free agent-  Health is the question?  Is he playing football anymore?  How much do you play someone who is iffy on that question?  We don't have one starting safety from this season signed for next season except Mike Adams who started at CB to end the season.

Brett Ratliff -free agent-  Mangini's scout QB.  I thought he was there to get some playing time, but if he didn't with our QB play I think he is only a scout QB

Matt Roth -Free agent-  SIGN THIS MAN!!  The Browns went 4-2 when he was on the roster.  He had 5 sacks in 6 games.  Yeah keep him around.

Donte Stallworth -due 1.5 million- i expect him to be cut

Jason Trusnik -free agent-  If Mangini is back i expect him to be back

Lawrence Vickers -free agent-  This guy is a tank.  The running of Jerome Harrison is in large part due to the holes he punched open.





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Since: May 29, 2007
Posted on: January 7, 2010 10:13 am
 

Browns expected free agents

 If a CBA is reached that allows for those RFAs to become UFAs, there will most certainly be a salary cap.  The only way an uncapped NFL works is with all of these extra regulations that restrict free agency and the teams trying to sign them.  Without it, the NFL would become Major League Baseball, and that's a mess that that no NFL owners want, except perhaps Jones and Snyder.

I agree wholeheartedly.  My point is players will look at the current situation and realize that a choose few can cash in once, then it is gone forever.  The choosen few will be extremely happy, that is free agents with 6 years experience or more i believe.  Everyone else who is a free agent will be extremely upset.  The large portion getting screwed will push for a resolution to make this better for all.

The owners are strapped with draft picks.  They are paying more for top draft picks than Albert Haynesworth got in that moster free agent deal.  Something has to give.  Owners really want a pay scale set in.  

I see a sense of urgency that will result in something.

Both sides could push away, but i wouldn't be shocked to see a "get it done attitude" win out.



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: January 6, 2010 1:11 pm
 

Browns expected free agents

It is an "uncapped" year, I am pretty sure they will be making noise to get the $ because it may not come around again. If a CBA is reached that allows for those RFAs to become UFAs, there will most certainly be a salary cap.  The only way an uncapped NFL works is with all of these extra regulations that restrict free agency and the teams trying to sign them.  Without it, the NFL would become Major League Baseball, and that's a mess that that no NFL owners want, except perhaps Jones and Snyder.

The players union would not allow a rookie pay scale without concessions from the owners, (unrestricted free agents after 3 years). Absolutely!  I think I said that in a previous post.  That is part of the reason that I'm not too confident in anything getting done before this draft.  The details of such a structure would be difficult to iron out without a full CBA and I think it's highly unlikely that a new CBA gets done within the next 12 months, let alone the next 3 months.



Since: May 29, 2007
Posted on: January 6, 2010 11:50 am
 

Browns expected free agents

Absolutely, but the deadline at this point is truly August of 2011.  No deal by then = no football.
That is only your deadline.  Not the negotiators.

The union will be hearing it from half the free agent class that is going to be restricted. True, but those 200 or so players who will be affected won't push the union into making a deal that isn't in line with what the rest want.

It is an "uncapped" year, I am pretty sure they will be making noise to get the $ because it may not come around again.

You're right, and I think we might see an amendment to the current CBA before April that would limit rookie contracts.  However, it's unrealistic to think that all of the other issues between these two sides can be worked out in a few short months.  If a rookie pay scale gets done before the draft, it'll be a springboard to a new CBA, not a new CBA itself.  There are just too many other issues to sort through.  I don't really expect a rookie pay scale to get done before the 2010 draft, but it would be encouraging if it did.
The players union would not allow a rookie pay scale without concessions from the owners, (unrestricted free agents after 3 years).



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: January 6, 2010 10:33 am
 

Browns expected free agents

If either side wants it bad enough, it can get done in time.  Deadlines make things happen. Absolutely, but the deadline at this point is truly August of 2011.  No deal by then = no football.

The union will be hearing it from half the free agent class that is going to be restricted. True, but those 200 or so players who will be affected won't push the union into making a deal that isn't in line with what the rest want.

The owners want to stop overpaying top draft picks.  Top draft picks don't have a true voice in the union right now.  It seems like something that can get done to me. You're right, and I think we might see an amendment to the current CBA before April that would limit rookie contracts.  However, it's unrealistic to think that all of the other issues between these two sides can be worked out in a few short months.  If a rookie pay scale gets done before the draft, it'll be a springboard to a new CBA, not a new CBA itself.  There are just too many other issues to sort through.  I don't really expect a rookie pay scale to get done before the 2010 draft, but it would be encouraging if it did.



Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: January 5, 2010 9:42 pm
 

Browns expected free agents

Donte Stallworth -due 1.5 million- i expect him to be cutI sincerely hope Happy Holmgren gets a top notch GM very soon!  With the pending labor situation and many crucial free agents it is not a good time to be asleep at the wheel (or as in the case of the Browns, no one at the wheel)...

A lot of these guys are Mangini guys.  I don't expect them back or many of his ex New York Jet friends...

What does the Seattle Seahawk free agent list look like?




Since: May 29, 2007
Posted on: January 5, 2010 3:26 pm
 

Browns expected free agents

Mano,
Labor negotiations are always tricky.
If either side wants it bad enough, it can get done in time.  Deadlines make things happen.  Until then both sides love the "lets walk away from the table strategy.  The union will be hearing it from half the free agent class that is going to be restricted.  The owners want to stop overpaying top draft picks.  Top draft picks don't have a true voice in the union right now.  It seems like something that can get done to me.

It should definitely be an interesting offseason!

Definitely



Since: Jun 30, 2008
Posted on: January 5, 2010 2:58 pm
 

Browns expected free agents

QB will be the story, but safety is the other giant hole. I agree safety is a big concern for the team.

The secondary in general could use a facelift. Brandon McDonald is nothing more than a nickel or possibly dime defensive back. Hank Poteat may retire after the season and Mike Adams is only average.

Pool will return, but can we realistically expect 16 games from him? Elam is OK. The secondary is one place where the Browns need to stockpile talent.

I've been a big Taylor Mays fan and nothing has changed. If not Mays, I hear there is a junior cornerback from Florida who may be worth a look.



Since: May 29, 2007
Posted on: January 5, 2010 2:43 pm
 

Browns expected free agents

QB will be the story, but safety is the other giant hole.

Our starters at safety this season

Abe Elam-free agent adequate could definitely use an upgrade
Brodney pool free agent may be done with football after last concussion ended season on IR
Mike Adams-signed-started at CB to end season.
Mike Furrey free agent Wide receiver for last however many seasons.



Since: Jun 30, 2008
Posted on: January 5, 2010 12:09 pm
 

Browns expected free agents

-free agent-  This guy is a tank.  The running of Jerome Harrison is in large part due to the holes he punched open. I've been saying this for some time now...



Geno, you could summarize this by saying the Browns should bring everyone from the 2009 team back for another year.

And I would agree.

Anderson doesn't want to come back, and he likely won't. The quarterback position will be the story of the offseason, and it'll be interesting to see how Holmgren addresses it. People close to the team speculate Holmgren will sign a veteran quarterback to sit while they develop a young quarterback for the future.

Where Brady Quinn figures into those plans in anybody's guess, so we'll see how it plays out.



Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: January 5, 2010 9:27 am
 

Browns expected free agents

however the collective bargaining agreement has expired and is being negotiated.  The NFL had several games blacked out this year.  That means their product isn't selling like it used to.  I think an agreement is reached prior to the draft specifically so the 1st round picks paychecks are alredy assigned. I honestly don't think there is any possibility that a new CBA is reached prior to this draft.  Perhaps by the next draft, but not this one.  There are rumors floating that the league is trying to get the NFLPA to agree to a rookie pay scale for this upcoming draft as part of the existing CBA.  While the owners have opted out of the current CBA, it hasn't expired and isn't set to expire until 2011.  When the owners opted out of the final 3 years, it set in motion some stipulations that will result in the uncapped year and more restrictions on free agency.  Make no mistake, though, that if there was no CBA currently in place we would not have football.

If that happens players union will want unrestricted free agency sooner. Agreed.  Part of any rookie pay scale will certanily be the limiting of rookie contracts to 3 years and unrestricted free agency beyond that.  Currently, a player cannot be an unrestricted FA until he has 4 years experience in the league.  That changed when the owners opted out of the current CBA and its gone to 5 years along with the uncapped year in 2010 and several other restrictions on playoff teams signing UFAs.

It should definitely be an interesting offseason!


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